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For Bart's, ban on smoking is a killer (smoking ban drives restaurant out of business)
The Rocky Mountain News ^ | 06/28/03 | Bill Johnson

Posted on 07/03/2003 10:44:39 AM PDT by Drew68

Johnson: For Bart's, ban on smoking is a killer

June 28, 2003

So who is going to march on City Hall and scream for Robert Mannion's rights?

The answer, of course, is no one. Indeed, Robert Mannion had no rights when it came to the conduct of his restaurant. It was the city's way, or the highway. And that is how this man's restaurant died.

Smoking killed it. Rather, it was the lack of it that forced its quick demise.

Less than a year after the city of Louisville enacted a no-smoking ordinance in all restaurants, Bart's, a fixture in the town for nearly three decades, shut its doors last week.

It had in recent months become a deserted shell of its former self. The bar, like many in Louisville restaurants these days, stood empty all day.

Robert Mannion tried virtually everything to resuscitate his business.

He drastically cut the price of his once-popular Sunday buffet, began offering 2-for-1 deals on supper, and even started a Bart's newsletter, mailing it to every local address he could locate.

In each one, he included a coupon for 20 percent-off on meals. It didn't work.

I have written of Bart's before, to illustrate the pitfalls of nonsmoking ordinances of the type with which Denver now struggles. Should it be the city's or the restaurant operator's call on smoking?

Robert Mannion had lost 99 percent of his smoking clientele after the ordinance passed, he said, the folks who once filled the place on Fridays, on the weekend and, particularly, on game days.

Their loss, he acknowledged, was killing him. And without a viable bar business, he couldn't offset his food costs.

I sort of knew Bart's would never survive. After I wrote about him the first time, even his beer suppliers called or e-mailed me, saying their trade there was but a fraction of even two years ago.

In the bars and hangouts in the towns around Louisville, you bring up the name Bart's and people tell you how they used to go there, how they don't now, how they used to really kind of like the joint.

Robert Mannion at first remained hopeful. Sure, he said, business was off some 66 percent since the ordinance went into effect. And it wasn't a good thing.

I still remember the lost look in his eyes when I asked him how long he figured he'd hold out. He just patted my shoulder, breathed a deep sigh and said he didn't know.

It was just before noon when I pulled in front of the place in search of Robert Mannion. Only a large "Closed" sign stood behind the door. And a note:

"Due to circumstances beyond our control, Bart's is closed indefinitely. We thank you for your support and memories."

As I was jotting this down, Howard Rose, 52, walked up and tugged on the restaurant's front door. I told him the news.

"I didn't know," he said, almost crestfallen. He runs an industrial supply business just up the road, and ate at Bart's at least once a week.

"I am sensitive to cigarette smoke," Howard Rose said, "but I still came. I never had a real problem because Robert was always really good about separating the smoke in the nonsmoking area."

And then there was Frank Gregg. He'd been coming to Bart's with his wife twice a week. You know, the coupons and all.

"Gone. Closed its doors," he spat.

See, he knew the actual Bart, the guy who opened the place all those years ago, a man who gave him a job 17 years ago playing guitar just off the bar area.

"When I started playing, StorageTek was in its heydey, and Friday nights would be packed. Sixty to 80 people in the bar, alone."

Even when StorageTek began laying off workers, the place still would have half as many people in the door, he said.

And it would remain that way. Until the smoking ban arrived.

"I'll always love that place," Frank Gregg said softly. "It gave me the most wonderful thing I'll ever receive in my life."

He met his wife there.

I never did find Robert Mannion. Phone calls and e-mail have gone unreturned.

I remember him telling me only weeks ago, as we stood in his empty, eerily quiet bar, how he did feel better in recent months. That maybe the anti-smoking people had a point.

After more than a decade working and hustling about smokers in his restaurant, his clothes no longer reeked of cigarette smoke.

He truly believed, he said, he was breathing better.

See, I wanted to ask Robert Mannion what he was thinking today. Was it, on balance, worth it?

Or was it - allowing people to smoke in his restaurant - a call he'd rather have made?

Bill Johnson's column appears Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. Call him at (303) 892-2763 or e-mail him at johnsonw@RockyMountainNews.com


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: pufflist; smokingbans
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A few days old but still relevant.

I'm sure us "selfish addicted smokers who can't go two hours without our precious cigarettes" will be blamed for this restaurant's demise.

1 posted on 07/03/2003 10:44:40 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: *puff_list
Ping to the Puff List for smoking related articles.
2 posted on 07/03/2003 10:46:49 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68
Perhaps the food tasted so bad that once customers' taste buds weren't dulled by tobacco smoke, they realized how awful it was and stopped going.
3 posted on 07/03/2003 10:48:52 AM PDT by Dilly
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To: Drew68
Where'd all the non-smokers go that wanted this ban? They get all the smokers out and then they don't show up??? Now I say they should pass a law requiring non-smokers to get their butts (pardon the pun) into all these bars that are struggling! NY is having the exact same problem.
4 posted on 07/03/2003 10:49:03 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Dilly
I wouldn't allow you in my restaurant. Every post yo mask has a liberal SPIN to it.
5 posted on 07/03/2003 10:53:04 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: Drew68
hmmm... it would be interesting to know the correlation between this kind of government interference in the legal operation of business and the climbing unemployment rates....
6 posted on 07/03/2003 10:53:31 AM PDT by TnMomofTwo
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To: Drew68
I would call this a case of "reverse condemnation"...the city took away at least part of his ownership rights.

He should pursue this course of action vs. the city.

A gentleman in St. Louis won a very large verdict against the City using "reverse condemnation"...it wasn't smoking related, however it was related to the city's restricting the property owner's rights under ownership.

7 posted on 07/03/2003 10:55:14 AM PDT by demsux
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To: tsmith130
They don't go to bars. they sit at home sipping merlot and plotting what else they can destroy with their idiocy.

8 posted on 07/03/2003 11:00:33 AM PDT by Gringo1 (A day without sunshine is like...well, night.)
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To: Dilly
You're a real dilly, Dilly. From NH eh? "Live Free Or Die" eh? BWAHAHAHA!...you're a real dilly, Dilly!

FMCDH

9 posted on 07/03/2003 11:06:37 AM PDT by nothingnew (the pendulum swings and the libs are in the pit)
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To: Dilly
good point
10 posted on 07/03/2003 11:12:45 AM PDT by HarryDunne
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To: Dilly
RE: "Live Free or Die" (Can I put a New Hampshire license plate on my car even if I don't live there?) (From your profile)

I vote no until you learn the meaning

11 posted on 07/03/2003 11:13:09 AM PDT by Gil4
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To: ohioman; nothingnew
"I wouldn't allow you in my restaurant"

What the...? I was just laughing that perhaps it was the food and not the smoking ban that killed the restaurant. Lighten up. I'm against government smoking bans, just like I'm against government bans on marijuana, cocaine, etc.
12 posted on 07/03/2003 11:15:37 AM PDT by Dilly
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To: Drew68
CAUTION: SMOKING MAY CAUSE THE LOSS OF FREEDOM
13 posted on 07/03/2003 11:23:48 AM PDT by Lexington Green
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To: Dilly
Perhaps the food tasted so bad

Oh yeh, for thirty years, huh?

14 posted on 07/03/2003 11:31:13 AM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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I hear this type of story and it pi$$'s me off. Most, if not all states requires seperate seating areas in eating establishments, why ban smoking? The main arguement for this smoking ban is that employees are affected by the smoke. But what happen to free will, when did people lose the abilty to choose where they can work?

What freedom of ownership will they take next. How about making the owner pay for excessive amounts of sick days (not counting ones that are already given) an employee takes because requiring them to come to work provented them from having a health happy life. How about individuls can now sue because the long commute caused stress, which cause high blood pressure which prevented them from having a happy health life. The list can go on, and on, and on.

I know these examples are exteme, but sooner or latter people have to understand that they have free will and it cost you knowthing to excerse it.
15 posted on 07/03/2003 11:33:37 AM PDT by A Texan (Lets finish the Game.)
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To: HarryDunne
good point

No point.
We've documented again and again that smoking bans hurt bars and restaurants, with or without bars.
The anti-smokers are always saying that the non-smoking population will make up for the smokers staying away.
Is there 15% of the population, at a conservative estimate, that doesn't smoke that doesn't go out NOW that WOULD go out because there is no more smoking in a business?
I don't have any scientific proof but I doubt it.

16 posted on 07/03/2003 11:35:58 AM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe
Imagine a state where the majority smoked and the state passed a law that said NO PRIVATE BUSINESS may prohibit smoking. Would the other side of this issue have any reason to complain?
17 posted on 07/03/2003 11:42:03 AM PDT by Mark (Treason doth never prosper, for if it prosper, NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON.)
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To: Dilly
Actually, smoking does not affect the taste of food in any appreciable way, that is a myth. A cup of coffee and a smoke is one of lifes greatest pleasures, a cigar after a meal, a pipe leisurely enjoyed in den. What it does do for the smoker is numb any sensitivity to tobacco smoke itself, not surprisingly. Good try, though.
18 posted on 07/03/2003 11:47:40 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Just another Joe
Oh yeh, for thirty years, huh?

Yep. I'm sure he waiting till the smoking ban went into effect...then hired the worse cooks possible.

19 posted on 07/03/2003 11:48:37 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum
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To: Mark
Would the other side of this issue have any reason to complain?

You mean they need a REASON?

20 posted on 07/03/2003 11:48:57 AM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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